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PostSubject: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeThu Oct 23, 2008 5:45 pm

Hello fellow delegates of SALMUN! I am Oscar, and with Juracy, I represent the Republic of India this year Very Happy

(Well, that is my first COMPLETE mun, so I hope to do my best!)

Our resolution is about the recognition of the Kashmir territory as part of India. This is really hot topic and I think we'll have a lot of productive debate about it!

India has always been, and still is attempting to maintain order and provide security to civilians in Kashmir. However, due to many infiltrations from Pakistan to India by terrorist groups such as Al Quaeda, the terrorist network has become so threathening to the Kashmiri people that India is keeping a massive military presence in Kashmir. The situation is unstable. It needs to stop. And to permit to put an end to cross border terrorism and restaure indian democracy there, we need to put the asian caucus members' efforts in common!

Dear delegates, India is willing to clarify any DOUBTS you may have about India's resolution to solve the Kashmir issue and Juracy and I will be glad to receive any questions or comments!

Have a good mun preparation and good luck
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeThu Oct 23, 2008 5:59 pm

Hello fellow delegate of India. The delegate of Afghanistan wishes the best to India, looking forward to find a solution to the hostilities in the Kashmir region. Afghanistan would like to remind the delegate of India about the Friendship Treaty, signed by both India and Afghanistan in 1950 and express its most truthful support. إله يبارك أنت


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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeThu Oct 23, 2008 6:23 pm

Hello fellow delegate of Afghanistan. The delegate of India is very glad to be supported by such a long-time ally, and deeply concerned by the threat Talibans' presence do represent for Afghanistan.
India wants to assure his full-support to the delegate of Afghanistan in his struggle against terrorism or in any major issue Afghanistan is involved into, deeply concerned and angered by the suiscide bombing in Kabul's Indian Embassy in July 2008.
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeFri Oct 24, 2008 3:10 am

Thank you for the support, delegate of India. Today the Taliban is occupying a small portion in the south of Afghanistan, however it is still a major concern. Keep in mind that during the most threating years of the Taliban rule, desperate Afghan refugees were accepted and helped by the countries of Australia and Indonosia, for who Afghanistan will be always extremely thankful. Keep in mind, delegate of India, that another topic discussed by Afghanistan, is the illict cultivation of opium poppy and its trafficking among other drugs. The delegation of Afghanistan also wishes India's support in this challenging issue of major concer to the people of Afghanistan and the International Community. إله يبارك أنت


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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeFri Oct 24, 2008 6:55 pm

hello, i'm camila 11th A and i represent china, along with paula 11th B, in the asian caucus. we are planning on choosing our position about the kashmir conflict after throughly analyzing each country's arguments, those being india and pakistan, when their arguments and ideas of resolving the issue are more clear. therefore, i would like to ask india and pakistan to explain exactly what their arguments are and how they are planning on resolving the conflict. more details about what they are intending to do is welcome too.
good luck to all, and thank you
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeMon Oct 27, 2008 5:26 am

To India,

Pakistan has sought to obtain the state of Kashmir for more than 50 years. This policy has its origins in Pakistan's struggle for a separate state for South Asia's Muslims, which India has never accepted. The agreeement was that any areas more than 70% Muslim would go to Pakistan. Kashmir, as a whole, has more than 80% Muslims and therefore clearly should be part of Pakistan. India continues to reject this regardless of the agreement established more than fifty years ago.

Pakistan also has the rightful claim of Kashmir when past and current situations are analyzed... first of all, when Pakistan agreed to sign an agreement that would continue trade and transportation with Kashmir, India refused and encouraged neighboring regions to pressure Kashmir to agree with India. India also said that if Kashmir joined Pakistan the chances of having any diplomatic or economic ties with India would be cut offf, and Pakistan took no such action!

Pakistan would also like to emphasize that the terrorist groups violating the rights of people in Kashmir are not associated with the Pakistani government, and that Pakistani troops have been stepping up their efforts to track many of these groups down. India’s military presence in Kashmir, and/or many Indian troops have recently acted violently towards Kashmir protestors, and have wounded and killed many in response to their freedom protests!

hoping for a great debate =)
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeMon Oct 27, 2008 7:37 pm

Fellow delegate of Pakistan, the delegate of India wants to emphasize that India respects the right of Kashmiri for self-determination, as it has cleary stated in the UN resolution of 1948.

However, the plebiscite that would have let Kashmiri vote to be reattached to India or Pakistan has never occured, for Pakistan never fulfill the requirement of this plebiscite. In fact, Pakistan invaded Kashmir by the mean of tribute men in 1947, then sent regular troops led by the Pakistani Major General Akbar Khanto to support them.

The delegate of Pakistan may deny these facts but the UN Commission that visited India in July 1948 found Pakistani forces operating in Pakistan occupied Kashmir. Fortunately, Indian troops protected both Kashmiri's lives and interests. The withdrawal of the tribute men and the regular Paskitani troops, as claimed in the UNCIP resolution of 1948, would have permitted the plebiscite; however, Pakistan did not withdraw, thus threatening any possibility for a fair plebiscite

How can the delegate of Pakistan claim Kashmir, when what Pakistan had been doing during 50 years was to put in Kashmir the seeds of conflicts and chaos? Pakistan attacked two more time Kashmir, in 1965, and in 1971, pursuing the attempt for Kashmiri insurgency against Indian rule.

The delegate of India also wants to point out that the Kashmiri's religion is not a relevant factor for Kashmir integration into Pakistan; Bangladesh was also a muslim majority territory of Pakistan but decided to become independent from Pakistan, without any religious criteria to do so.

Kashmiri had chosen their side, delegate of Pakistan; and they had been extremely courageous to do so, considering the possible repression attempts from Pakistani troops. The Constitution of Jammu and Kashmir written in 1956 is a reaffirmation of Indian rule on Kashmir from the Kashmiri:
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We, the people of the State of Jammu and Kashmir, having solemnly resolved, in pursuance of accession of this State to India which took place on the twenty-sixth day of October, 1947, to further define the existing relationship of the State with the Union of India as an integral part thereof, and to secure to ourselves.

The delegate of India believes that the past events in Kashmir are self-sufficient to clarify the Kashmiri claims for Indian democracy; but present events are threatening Kashmiri welfare. A constant flow of infiltrators are crossing the Line of Control, which is the border between Indian- controlled Kashmir and Paskistan-controlled Kashmir. These infiltrators are using terror tactics and human rights violations, such as the kidnappings and killings of innocent people. In 2002, 44% of Kashmiri affirmed their want for a cease of terrorist activities and to adopt Democracy during the Kashmir State Assembly Elections.

The delegate of India is aware that terrorists infiltration in Kashmir has some favorable grounds in Pakistan; but this are only suspicions, and India and Pakistan should share their intelligence agencies' data about terrorist networks in order to dismantle them.

Cross Border Terrorism has no boundaries. Let's unite our efforts for the welfare of Kashmir.
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeTue Oct 28, 2008 2:57 pm

Why are the rebels in Kashmir now fighting Indians and Pakistans? Now with a new president, what is Pakistan's position? Hardcore or is it beggining to loosen up?
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeFri Oct 31, 2008 5:09 am

Even tough I am a delegate of Colombia this year, I was an Indian Delegate last year in 9nth grade and my resolution was also about the Kashmir issue. I just wanted to say that I could offer any help if wanted to.
I just wanted to add that China is also part of the conflict and that it is really to look at the history of the conflict because it tells a lot about what is going on right now!
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeWed Nov 05, 2008 5:21 pm

Fellow delegate of India it has come to my attention that India has not taken into account that Pakistan's stance on the Kashmir Issue has altered since the election of our new president this past September. No longer are your claims of Pakistan running government lead terrorist activities a valid position against a Pakistan governed Kashmir. The delegate would like to note that our current president, the widower of Benazir Bhutto, who was one of the world's greatest anti-terrorism advocates, still holds all of her counterterrorism policies. Pakistan is retaliating against the oppression that terrorism has brought upon our young nation with greater force than ever before. The spread of terrorism to the Kashmir region is held in equal threat regardless of whether Pakistan or India is the main governmental power. Recalling your own statement, "Cross Border Terrorism has No boundaries.", brings to acknowledgement that terrorism can spawn and spread in any region regardless of the "powers that be." Times are changing and Pakistan calls that the International Community acknowledge any change in power when pertaining to issues of policy.

Thank you and may we always stand united for the welfare and interests of the Kashmiri people.
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeWed Nov 05, 2008 6:02 pm

affraid Pakistan have already be proven to sponsor and host terrorism. Its government have direct relations with Taliban and other terrorist groups. Its secret service the ISI have maintain direct contact with such organizations. By giving Kashmir to Pakistan we would only be giving more "area" to the terrorists to act. Hasta la vista


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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeWed Nov 05, 2008 6:16 pm

about the Pakistani delegate reply saying that the Pakistani president have changed so the point is not valid i would strongly disagree. The Pakistani government have not yet proven its effort in the fight against terrorism. terrorist go in and out the pakistani border in daily bases. Pakistan will only prove its so called possition "agains" terrorism when it show explicit efforts in entering the war against terror. farao
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeWed Nov 05, 2008 6:46 pm

Pakistan_Gianna wrote:
Recalling your own statement, "Cross Border Terrorism has No boundaries.", brings to acknowledgement that terrorism can spawn and spread in any region regardless of the "powers that be."

Delegate of Pakistan, the delegate of India wants to explain that by this statement, he meant that the infiltrators are free to go into Kashmir BECAUSE not enough internal measures are taken in Pakistan, as stated by Juracy.

What concreet actions did Pakistan in its own country to prevent infiltrators from going into Kashmir? The delegate of India is eager to know, and reaffirmate that since cross border terrorism has indeed no boundaries, India will as well take measures against it, like the strong military reinforcement in Kashmir such as air patrol, and the call for a better intelligence sharing with Pakistan as well as with the CIA, in order to dismantle terrorists network.
But keep in mind that India is promoting strong democracy principles, from which the Kashmiri shall more beneficiate, especially in the fight against terrorism.

Let's keep hope in a possible cooperation between India and Pakistan!

To the Secretary General Pedro: The delegate of India did a lot of research, but could not find any case of Kashmiri strong resistance movement against Pakistani. I believe it is because of pro-independence movment, but I don't have any evidences.
Can you be more specific about places/events/group involved?

Thank you
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeThu Nov 06, 2008 1:50 am

Salam Fellow delegates,
Afghanistan would like to once again thank both Pakistan and India for supporting Afghanistan's fight against drugs and terrorism along the border with Pakistan. On the other hand, in relations to the Kashmir issue, Afghanistan is supporting India not only because relations between Afghanistan and India are better; not olnly because India is currently more stable than Pakistan; but especially because a decision can not be taken without considering the opinions of the Kashmiri people. The peoples of Kashmir have expressed their desire to be oconsidered as a part of India, and no one better then them to know what is best for them and the region as a whole. Regrdaless of that, Afghanistan wishes to solve the issue peacefully without resentiments. إله يبارك أنت
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeThu Nov 13, 2008 7:14 am

Hellow delegate of India,
Indonesia is neutral on Kashmir crisis,

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0WDQ/is_2001_Jan_15/ai_70384469
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeSat Nov 15, 2008 5:44 pm

Fellow delegates, Germany is India's 4th biggest trading partner. On the other hand Germany also maintains brotherly relations with Pakistan. Therefore, Germany does not want to take sides on the conflict. The German foreign Minister Joschka Fischer, representing all the peoples of Germany, called upon improvement between Pakistan and India relations. Therefore, Germany would like to express its full support to the ongoing peace process.
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeSat Nov 15, 2008 6:02 pm

Delegate of Germany,
You will not be the only delegate to be neutral on the Kashmir issue because of your deep links between both India and Pakistan.

The delegate of India indeed promotes peace process between ou nation and Pakistan, that's what India's resolution is all about: promoting data share between Pakistan and India to dismantle terrorist network in both countries, since what's going on in India's neighbourghood is influencing Kashmir; encourage intense exportation in Kashmir to repair Kashmir's economy and create jobs; finally asking for UNESCO to provide free education to open opportunities to Kashmir's youth.

India's resolution is not about imposing sanctions over Pakistan.
It is not about disregarding one country and beneficiating the other.
It is about bringing durable peace in Kashmir. And in the present situation fellow delegates, India is the most qualified nation to bring peace in Kashmir.
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeSat Nov 15, 2008 6:52 pm

Thank you or the clarification fellow delegate of India!
Well, if India’s resolution is promoting data share between Pakistan and India to dismantle terrorist network in both countries, encourage intense exportation in Kashmir to repair Kashmir's economy, create jobs, ask UNESCO for aid, consequently bringing durable peace to the Kashmiri region, Germany will be indeed in favor of the proposal. The supposed abstention will occur in relation to an eventual land claiming.
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeSat Nov 15, 2008 7:40 pm

Fellow delegate of Germany,

The delegate of India is glad to see that you support India's resolution.
Yet, the delegate of Germany missed the goal of India, expressed in India's last post :
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India is the most qualified nation to bring peace in Kashmir.

The delegate of India's statement asserting that the peaceful means India has the capacity to use in Kashmir's revitalization implies that kashmir becomes Indian.

Only then, Kashmir will have the opportunities of peace, economic stability, and democracy.
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeMon Nov 17, 2008 7:09 am

A previously states in an UN Security Council resolution, Kashmir Territory as a whole is part of India's Territory, and therefore this should be respected. As once German delegate stated:

"India is the most qualified nation to bring peace in Kashmir."
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeMon Nov 17, 2008 9:23 am

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India is the most qualified nation to bring peace in Kashmir.
Um, are the delegates aware that India’s military presence in Kashmir has resulted in the flourishing of violent acts towards Kashmir protestors?! India's troops have often wounded and killed many in response to their freedom protests! Besides, the initial agreement was that any areas more than 70% Muslim would go to Pakistan. Kashmir AS A WHOLE has more than 80% Muslims and therefore clearly should be part of Pakistan. India continues to reject this regardless of the agreement established more than 50 years ago!

And by the way, as stated before, your claims of Pakistan running government lead terrorist activities are no longer an accurate position against a Kashmir governed by Pakistan. Our current president, the husband of Benazir Bhutto (recently assasinated), who devoted her life to fighting against terrorism and establishing democracy, still holds all of her counterterrorism beliefs and policies. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeMon Nov 17, 2008 11:58 am

Pakistan_Jasmine wrote:

Um, are the delegates aware that India’s military presence in Kashmir has resulted in the flourishing of violent acts towards Kashmir protestors?!

Fellow delegate of Pakistan, shall the delegate of India remind you that in 1989, crossborder terrorists went massively through the Line of Control from Pakistan to India, with the intent of creating insurgency movement in Kashmir and destabilizing the region? Kashmiri Pandits (Hindu), living within strife-torn Kasmir claim that Islamic terrorists are carrying out a campaign of ethnic cleansing against the Hindu population. As a result, India forces are deployed to protect their Hindu brethren and protect their borders.

What the delegate of Pakistan is considering as a freedom movement is in fact the manifestation of the nefarious influence of hidden terrorist networks operating from Pakistan to Kashmir on the population.
The delegate of India is deeply worried that Indian soldiers used violence to prevent terrorist threats, but as well emphasizes Indian duty to prevent Kashmiri civilians from further massive attacks.

However, India sees the election of Mr Zardari as a benediction for the solvency of the terrorist threat in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Kashmir. The delegate of India considers his election as a crucial step for Pakistan stability; however, measures still need to be taken, and india is confident in Pakistan' resolution to solve terrorism.
Let us remind one thing: Kashmir people needs India's aid NOW.
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeMon Nov 17, 2008 2:31 pm

To the delegate of India,
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Fellow delegate of Pakistan, shall the delegate of India remind you that in 1989, crossborder terrorists went massively through the Line of Control from Pakistan to India, with the intent of creating insurgency movement in Kashmir and destabilizing the region?
Delegate, do these previous acts of Pakistans' justify your own inhumanitarian violations of human rights? Is it necessary to recall the 2004 attacks India imposed on Kashmir civilians? Well delegate, more 115 people died in only one attack, recalled to be an airstrike. But we are talking about here and now. Pakistan's previous president, Musharaff, had different political views of those of Mr. Zardari, who is currently trying to bring these acts of violence to an end. And furthermore, you continue to claim that Pakistan runs government led terrorist activities, which is not an accurate or valid position on a Kashmir ruled by Pakistan. Shall we recall that Pakistan has been stepping up its efforts against terrorists, and that since the 9/11 attacks, we have tracked down more than 700 Al-Qaeda members? And you say that it is your duty to prevent Kashmiri civilians from further massive attacks, but how is it possible to combat violence by USING violence?? Pakistan is pleased to know that India considers the election of Zardari an effective step forward to the stability of Pakistan, and that it supports Pakistan's resolution on fighting terrorism. Measures need to be taken to solve the Kashmir issue, but previous agreements also need to be taken into account!!! Idea
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeTue Nov 18, 2008 4:27 am

Chinas position in the Kashmir conflict is as a "reluctant and silent third party", indicating its neutrality. China and Pakistan have had history together and close ties, especially due to the fact that Pakistan was the one of the first countries to recognize the People's Republic of China, in 1950, however, China has been improving its relations with India as well so that the situation is balanced, and a solution can be achieved throughout diplomacy and peace. The reason China is so concerned and is willing to be involved in this conflict is so that it can provide intelligence, fight terrorism and repair relations with the Muslim world. China is willing to achieve a solution, but one that will be beneficial for both Pakistan and India.
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PostSubject: Re: India's resolution on Kashmir   India's resolution on Kashmir Icon_minitimeTue Nov 18, 2008 6:35 pm

Pakistan_Jasmine wrote:
Delegate, do these previous acts of Pakistans' justify your own inhumanitarian violations of human rights?

Fellow delegate of Pakistan,
the delegate of India is stating that soldiers' collateral damages on the local population are the RESULT of widespread terrorism in the region.
The issue will not be solved by counting the number of death each side committed; but rather, why these civilians died.

In the case of India’s attacks, civilians died because they were supporting terrorist organizations infiltrated in Kashmir illegally.
In the case of terrorist groups’ attacks, civilians died because of blind violence acts and attempts of creating massive fear and destabilize Indian rule in the Kashmir.

Delegate of Pakistan, terrorism is like cancer: Kashmir is contaminated by terrorist network crossing the Line of Control from Pakistan. How to cure terrorism? Facing the policy of the Pakistani president Musharraf, who let Al Qaeda training camps to send frequently infiltrators into Kashmir, India had no choice but to send a massive military force to prevent any bigger trouble from militant organizations.
The past situation is a clear example of failed diplomacy and untrusts between Pakistan and India. However delegate, IF terrorism in Kashmir is destroyed in Kashmir, Indian troops will withdrawal from it.

The delegate of India wants to emphasize that it cannot end terrorism ALONE.
Kashmir is a cross border issue.
That is precisely why India is submitting this resolution this year: India proposes cooperation with Pakistan to bring stability in Kashmir and put an end to half a century of dispute.
The delegate of India wants to emphasize that an Indian Kashmir would be greatly beneficial to Pakistan: a trade rout has been opened between Kashmir and Pakistan recently; cultural, ethnic, and economic exchange will be possible to create between Pakistan and Kashmir, only if terrorism ends.

India is not looking for imprisoning the Kashmir people if it becomes Indian. The delegation of India is looking forward a trustful bilateral relation with Pakistan, as it has always been claiming it in previous agreements.
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